The Protect Ontario by Unleashing our Economy Act (Bill 5) is an abuse of the sense of public urgency for "major projects" and greater independence from the US.
The same kind of thing is happening here in Nova Scotia. Gee, let's see, Alberta, Ontario, and Nova Scotia all have Conservative governments in power. And they are all reading - and passing Bills - that smack of the MAGA playbook. I've lived in all three of these provinces under various governments, federal and provincial and Canadians coast to coast need to have ELBOWS UP not only in solidarity against Trump and his minions (and puppet-masters) around the globe, but in solidarity with our Indigeous Peoples, the original and still sovereign stewards of this land we are privileged to share with them (well, more accurately coerced and Conned - and the capital "C" is intentiona) them into sharing with our "founding" settler predecessors. It's not so much "Elbows Up" here, perhaps as "hold up -- let's not let advantage once more and over-reach Truth and Reconciliation in the process. I will support "Idle No More" (again) across this vast land.
At least by virtue of the Nunavut land claim the Inuit have a seat at the First Ministers table, but our First Peoples should have more than token representation (no offence to the Premier of Nunavut, but I don't expect he could or should have to speak for all First Nations and Metis, as well as the Inuit and other citizens of his territory).
Shape up and speak out, Canada. The threat is not all external. Let's not burn down or frack up the house!
Very well said Calandra, and I completely agree, that we must be vigilant here in Canada for the regression, self-serving legislative actions by Conservative governments in any of our provinces.
As an Ontarian, I will not tolerate any (Trumpian or otherwise) effort to bypass the rights of our First Peoples, or any of us, to clean air, waters, or land.
Shorttermism is anathema to longterm survival & thriving!
Ford rammed Bill 5 through the legislature, unwilling to consult with elected MPP’s from other parties. Called anyone who objected a “left wing crazy”. Ford has contempt for anyone who gets in his way - this has been clear since 2018. He will not, and does not, respect First Nations.
Ford is hiding behind Trump - the very person Ford made clear he admires and imitates.
Hides behind Trump with the same contempt for law as is held by Trump, the same commitment to personal grift by leveraging the state to personal and/or friends’ advantage.
Bill 5 is a line in the sand. What is Canada if not a nation of three founding peoples, including Indigenous?
Ford and his ilk equate country with economy- that is a confused and dangerous take.
It's called a majority. No need for consultation. The Westminster system guarantees DICTATORSHIP to a party with a majority. The Party Whip ensures it by threatening members to ensure a majority vote.
We have to rid ourselves of the current system and ditch the Monarchy. We are subjects of the Crown and are “managed” like serfs. The system “allows” for tyranny to be implemented and Carney is the guy to do it. Pierre Trudeau paved the way. His son fid the same for Carney.
Doug Ford thinks he is too big for his breaches. He needs to go on Time Out and review what is expected from a provincial premier. This behaviour is common in Conservative leaders. Their focus is what they can do that will benefit themselves or their buddies. They tend to ignore the needs of the rest of Canadians.
Like all of these... I've not come across the proper word that covers them all, yet... Trump, Orban, Polievre, Ford, the guy (always guys, Thatcher gave it the best try, so far, for women), in San, or is it, El, Salvador, murmurs from Libya, South Sudan, elsewhere, ... Bad Actors, if you will; these guys can be bought by anyone who will put coin in their purse. Not much different from the Monarch/Courtier relationships of the past, (Gosh, we like to loop through the same awfulness over and over) other than that it's occurring in supposed democracies. I realize some of these places were never democracies and several have have recently morphed into democracy-in-name-only's. Interesting though, that these Bad Actor's in places still claiming to be democracies, publicly admire the guy's who've made that last step, without fear of rejection. That certainly bodes ill.
It also reinforces my fear of humanity ever evolving enough to be worthy of note, let alone worthy of spreading this virus we are, beyond the boundaries of this planet.
Grave concerns. Having been involved many years ago in fighting the development of a county dump I know that "consultation" was window dressing as far as the OMB was concerned. It was my first gut wrenching shock, fresh out of university, to realize the outcome was predetermined. If it took a couple more days in order to appear like consultation, so be it. I'm pretty sure that I do not want Ford deciding what projects are to be expedited. Whatever industries his circle of friends are in, is who will be favoured. How are they planning on policing or disciplining companies that do not live up to safety and the paltry environmental standards they allow to be kept ?
There needs to be a royalty program set up, similar to what Norway did with its oil industry. The First Nations should be recipient of said royalties. Companies can learn to live with it or do without. They may have to pay their higher-ups less money. They are too used to being overpayed at great excess for too long. We can rethink and innovate new approaches. Ring of Fire will remove resources that won't regenerate. Oil and mining companies have shown that they always want to fill their pockets excessively right now with not one thought or care for the victims of the decimated land, nor the widespread conditions and diseases that visit people for decades. Look what Elon is up to in Memphis with Grok, and illegal emissions.
Just saw a video on the Parkinson Disease Belt. It pretty much matches the Rust Belt area and the portion of southern Ontario just north of it. It discussed the role of pollutants from manufacturing. No one in politics or corporations want to think 25 years down the line. There are other countries who manage to. It would be too bad to learn from them, I guess. The Love Canal fiasco seems to have been forgotten. Many other coverups of horrid industrial pollution have come to light. That is why our parents and grandparents fought for regulations for clean air and water.
I had neighbours in the maple syrup business 20 years ago who had to exit because of the severe maple decline disease of their trees. Years later a different maple syrup producer noted that when a lot of manufacturing stacks stopped belching black whatever, in the Hudson Valley the amount of maple decline dropped dramatically. My niece lives in Albert, and was travelling in an area that is barren and desolate and eerily black and grey with not one bit of vegetation. It had big signs to not stop and not take pictures. If your car breaks down when going through it uniformed guys appear and get you on your way fast. Apparently it is an area completely ruined by industrial pollution and they do their best to keep it out of sight. The effects of mining pollution is long term and devastating! Today's jobs can put you in the hospital system dying a slow death with many others, and will there even be the staff needed to care for you? Where will the provincial money be then? In northern Ontario the lumber companies leave a decorative border of large trees growing along the highways for the tourist to admire but behind that they have denuded the land entirely.
My son lives in Northern Ontario. There was a platinum mine opened. I believe during Stephen Harper's time. The mining rights under that native land had been sold to a European mining company, in the Ring of Fire area. That should never happen. I hope all First Nations have gotten a hold of all underground rights at this point. The council members, 11 people, went out to join a protest that there had not been sufficient consultation, among other things. They were all put in jail. My son said the place was left in the lurch because those were the people who knew how to manage day to day all the programs in place at the time. He said most of them were still in jail a year later. Playing dirty is a way of life for these corporations. Deregulation is not our friend. Streamlining always seems to mean cutting environmental and safety corners. It never seems to be putting enough well trained people in positions to just follow the proper regulatory actions in a more timely manner. Sometimes it seems like corporations are bribing board members at hearings to be purposely slow and cantankerous, to gum up the works so they can later say the process is too slow. They have proven to not be worthy of our trust.
What is it with these people and their Machismo-based And Disingenuous Legislation Identification Bill (MADLIB) names?
Does it actually work on voters?
Or more to the point, does it change minds in any way in regard to the actual legislation?
I suspect it strokes something in the reptilian brains of certain voters who are already on board with the self-destructive policies of such legislators, but does it work to sway or hoodwink Con Curious, informed opposition, or reflexive non-Con voters?
The same kind of thing is happening here in Nova Scotia. Gee, let's see, Alberta, Ontario, and Nova Scotia all have Conservative governments in power. And they are all reading - and passing Bills - that smack of the MAGA playbook. I've lived in all three of these provinces under various governments, federal and provincial and Canadians coast to coast need to have ELBOWS UP not only in solidarity against Trump and his minions (and puppet-masters) around the globe, but in solidarity with our Indigeous Peoples, the original and still sovereign stewards of this land we are privileged to share with them (well, more accurately coerced and Conned - and the capital "C" is intentiona) them into sharing with our "founding" settler predecessors. It's not so much "Elbows Up" here, perhaps as "hold up -- let's not let advantage once more and over-reach Truth and Reconciliation in the process. I will support "Idle No More" (again) across this vast land.
At least by virtue of the Nunavut land claim the Inuit have a seat at the First Ministers table, but our First Peoples should have more than token representation (no offence to the Premier of Nunavut, but I don't expect he could or should have to speak for all First Nations and Metis, as well as the Inuit and other citizens of his territory).
Shape up and speak out, Canada. The threat is not all external. Let's not burn down or frack up the house!
Very well said Calandra, and I completely agree, that we must be vigilant here in Canada for the regression, self-serving legislative actions by Conservative governments in any of our provinces.
Full agreement, including Idle No More support.
As an Ontarian, I will not tolerate any (Trumpian or otherwise) effort to bypass the rights of our First Peoples, or any of us, to clean air, waters, or land.
Shorttermism is anathema to longterm survival & thriving!
100%
Ford rammed Bill 5 through the legislature, unwilling to consult with elected MPP’s from other parties. Called anyone who objected a “left wing crazy”. Ford has contempt for anyone who gets in his way - this has been clear since 2018. He will not, and does not, respect First Nations.
Ford is hiding behind Trump - the very person Ford made clear he admires and imitates.
Hides behind Trump with the same contempt for law as is held by Trump, the same commitment to personal grift by leveraging the state to personal and/or friends’ advantage.
Bill 5 is a line in the sand. What is Canada if not a nation of three founding peoples, including Indigenous?
Ford and his ilk equate country with economy- that is a confused and dangerous take.
Ford must be stopped.
I stand with First Nations.
#ElbowsUp against the fifth column aka Ford.
It's called a majority. No need for consultation. The Westminster system guarantees DICTATORSHIP to a party with a majority. The Party Whip ensures it by threatening members to ensure a majority vote.
Understood, but we must resist this obscene misuse of Westminster rules to undermine the rule of law.
We have to rid ourselves of the current system and ditch the Monarchy. We are subjects of the Crown and are “managed” like serfs. The system “allows” for tyranny to be implemented and Carney is the guy to do it. Pierre Trudeau paved the way. His son fid the same for Carney.
I thought the smart people had got Bill 5 stalled, but NO,
This reminds me of Ford's Minister's Zoning Order that turned so many against him, and got curtailed.
Good reporting on the dangers of Bill 5
Doug Ford thinks he is too big for his breaches. He needs to go on Time Out and review what is expected from a provincial premier. This behaviour is common in Conservative leaders. Their focus is what they can do that will benefit themselves or their buddies. They tend to ignore the needs of the rest of Canadians.
Like all of these... I've not come across the proper word that covers them all, yet... Trump, Orban, Polievre, Ford, the guy (always guys, Thatcher gave it the best try, so far, for women), in San, or is it, El, Salvador, murmurs from Libya, South Sudan, elsewhere, ... Bad Actors, if you will; these guys can be bought by anyone who will put coin in their purse. Not much different from the Monarch/Courtier relationships of the past, (Gosh, we like to loop through the same awfulness over and over) other than that it's occurring in supposed democracies. I realize some of these places were never democracies and several have have recently morphed into democracy-in-name-only's. Interesting though, that these Bad Actor's in places still claiming to be democracies, publicly admire the guy's who've made that last step, without fear of rejection. That certainly bodes ill.
It also reinforces my fear of humanity ever evolving enough to be worthy of note, let alone worthy of spreading this virus we are, beyond the boundaries of this planet.
Grave concerns. Having been involved many years ago in fighting the development of a county dump I know that "consultation" was window dressing as far as the OMB was concerned. It was my first gut wrenching shock, fresh out of university, to realize the outcome was predetermined. If it took a couple more days in order to appear like consultation, so be it. I'm pretty sure that I do not want Ford deciding what projects are to be expedited. Whatever industries his circle of friends are in, is who will be favoured. How are they planning on policing or disciplining companies that do not live up to safety and the paltry environmental standards they allow to be kept ?
There needs to be a royalty program set up, similar to what Norway did with its oil industry. The First Nations should be recipient of said royalties. Companies can learn to live with it or do without. They may have to pay their higher-ups less money. They are too used to being overpayed at great excess for too long. We can rethink and innovate new approaches. Ring of Fire will remove resources that won't regenerate. Oil and mining companies have shown that they always want to fill their pockets excessively right now with not one thought or care for the victims of the decimated land, nor the widespread conditions and diseases that visit people for decades. Look what Elon is up to in Memphis with Grok, and illegal emissions.
Just saw a video on the Parkinson Disease Belt. It pretty much matches the Rust Belt area and the portion of southern Ontario just north of it. It discussed the role of pollutants from manufacturing. No one in politics or corporations want to think 25 years down the line. There are other countries who manage to. It would be too bad to learn from them, I guess. The Love Canal fiasco seems to have been forgotten. Many other coverups of horrid industrial pollution have come to light. That is why our parents and grandparents fought for regulations for clean air and water.
I had neighbours in the maple syrup business 20 years ago who had to exit because of the severe maple decline disease of their trees. Years later a different maple syrup producer noted that when a lot of manufacturing stacks stopped belching black whatever, in the Hudson Valley the amount of maple decline dropped dramatically. My niece lives in Albert, and was travelling in an area that is barren and desolate and eerily black and grey with not one bit of vegetation. It had big signs to not stop and not take pictures. If your car breaks down when going through it uniformed guys appear and get you on your way fast. Apparently it is an area completely ruined by industrial pollution and they do their best to keep it out of sight. The effects of mining pollution is long term and devastating! Today's jobs can put you in the hospital system dying a slow death with many others, and will there even be the staff needed to care for you? Where will the provincial money be then? In northern Ontario the lumber companies leave a decorative border of large trees growing along the highways for the tourist to admire but behind that they have denuded the land entirely.
My son lives in Northern Ontario. There was a platinum mine opened. I believe during Stephen Harper's time. The mining rights under that native land had been sold to a European mining company, in the Ring of Fire area. That should never happen. I hope all First Nations have gotten a hold of all underground rights at this point. The council members, 11 people, went out to join a protest that there had not been sufficient consultation, among other things. They were all put in jail. My son said the place was left in the lurch because those were the people who knew how to manage day to day all the programs in place at the time. He said most of them were still in jail a year later. Playing dirty is a way of life for these corporations. Deregulation is not our friend. Streamlining always seems to mean cutting environmental and safety corners. It never seems to be putting enough well trained people in positions to just follow the proper regulatory actions in a more timely manner. Sometimes it seems like corporations are bribing board members at hearings to be purposely slow and cantankerous, to gum up the works so they can later say the process is too slow. They have proven to not be worthy of our trust.
Orwellian indeed.
What is it with these people and their Machismo-based And Disingenuous Legislation Identification Bill (MADLIB) names?
Does it actually work on voters?
Or more to the point, does it change minds in any way in regard to the actual legislation?
I suspect it strokes something in the reptilian brains of certain voters who are already on board with the self-destructive policies of such legislators, but does it work to sway or hoodwink Con Curious, informed opposition, or reflexive non-Con voters?